ALL IN! – By Robert Rodriguez

This is one of the best market commentaries I’ve read in a while. It comes from one of the few investors I admire and who I would trust my money if I had no idea about investing or was not inclined to invest by myself. I am pleased to confirm again that he has deep doubts about the feds behavior in the last years. He also seems to like Austrian Economists. Given that economical background I understand now why we have such a similar way of thinking. Those guys really taught me how to think and helped me get rid of my old economic ideas. Phil Carret also liked Austrian Economists, that’s the reason why I started studying them. Before knowing about Carret I had never heard of that school of thought. It’s all linked: I knew about Carret via Warren Buffett. The links go further: note that Roger Lowenstein, who wrote one of Buffett’s best biographies – Buffett: The making of an American Capitalist – also wrote extensively about Robert Rodriguez in his recent book – The End of Wall Street. This time the book’s hero was Robert (aka Bob) Rodriguez. Robert Rodriguez is one of the very few investors who was very vocal about the housing bubble, before it burst, and who could profit from it.

Enough talking here is a copy of his article with which I completely agree. It can also be found as a pdf file on his FPA funds website under special commentaries:

By Robert L. Rodriguez
September 13, 2012

The Fed initiated QE3 today by announcing its plan to buy $40 billion per month of agency mortgage-backed securities, finishing Operation Twist by year end and keeping the federal funds rate at 0 to 1/4 percent through at least mid-2015. Additionally, “If the outlook for the labor market does not improve substantially, the Committee will continue its purchases of agency mortgage-backed securities, undertake additional asset purchases, and employ its other policy tools as appropriate until such improvement is achieved in a context of price stability.” With this statement, the Fed has gone “ALL IN!”

The Dow Jones Industrial Average responded by renewing the “Risk On” trade with a 206 point rally. The Fed’s actions have raised the ante for investment professionals and other organizations where their portfolios are under invested or “under risked”. With little time remaining in this investment year, the pressure on money managers to do something has become more intense. Needless to say, these monetary intrusions are just more of the same and the Fed Chairman is trying to bludgeon the market into taking risk. The key question is, “Will it work?” In the short-run, the Fed can win. In the long-run, will there be costs or disruptions for the economy and investors from these actions?

Since the Fed initiated its traditional and non-traditional monetary policies in reaction to the Great Recession, with the goal of stabilizing and stimulating an economic recovery, economic performance has been poor and not what was anticipated. The Fed’s forecasts have been overly optimistic. During the past five years, there have been 53 downward revisions to its economic growth forecast versus 22 upgrades.(1) The forecast released today continues, in my opinion, this overly optimistic predilection with its growth estimates for 2013 and 2014 increasing while a decline in the unemployment rate by 0.1-0.3% is anticipated, when compared to its June forecast. Unlike the Fed, since Q3 2008, I viewed a real GDP recovery growth rate of barely 2% as the most likely outcome and we would not have a “V” shaped recovery, as was typically expected. My “guesstimate” has proven to be fairly close to the actual outcome. In contrast, the Fed’s high end central tendency forecast has been upwards of more than double my estimate, particularly for 2011 and 2012.(2) Why anyone would place credibility in the Fed’s forecast is beyond me. Obviously, the revised outlook reflects a belief that its shock treatment will work. We’ll see.

Since 2009 I have used the word “substandard” as the best way to describe how the recovery would unfold. I believed the economy faced structural headwinds that could last upwards of a decade or more. In a preliminary draft paper, “Debt Overhangs: Past and Present,” the authors concluded that since the early 1800’s, the average duration before recovery took place from a debt overhang has been about 23 years.(3) The Fed Chairman recently expressed the opinion that he does not view unemployment as structural.(4) However, he is using this “All In” approach to shock the economic system. This reflects something other than normal times. He believes if the Fed gets interest rates low enough for a sufficiently long period, the recovery will finally gain traction. This is pure speculation. I view this approach as highly dangerous, misdirected and untested.

The economy’s failure to respond sufficiently to traditional monetary and fiscal stimuli, as would be expected from a Keynesian viewpoint, raises many questions as to the soundness and applicability of this approach to current circumstances. Unlike previous post WW2 recessions that were more a function of inventory cycles, this contraction had its genesis in excessive credit growth that led to malinvestment in housing and other long-term consumer and commercial assets. Unsound monetary and fiscal policies helped create this speculative environment. In a similar vein, between 1924 and 1927, an easy monetary policy of low interest rates, with the goal of stabilizing the wholesale price level while stimulating economic growth, led to excessive capital investments in industrial goods industries and eventually, to investment speculation. At the time, several Austrian school economists were quite negative of this policy and believed the after effects from these actions would be long lasting. In a similar fashion, I expressed the view the Fed was contributing to financial excess between 2003 and 2007 with its misguided monetary and regulatory policies. Chairman Bernanke is held in high esteem by the consensus. As usual, I am not with this consensus. He refuses to admit the Fed made monetary policy errors that helped create the housing bubble. He maintains it was a worldwide savings glut that caused it and not the Fed. In fact, for both 2005 and 2006 he held the view that there was no housing bubble—a major miss. In contrast, at FPA we were of the opposite opinion and took action in the portfolios to hopefully protect capital before the bubble burst. The only retraction Bernanke has made was in reference to his May 2007 comment that he thought the subprime mortgage mess would be contained. I publically expressed the opposite view and said that subprime was the canary in the credit coal mine.

It is my view that investment managers do not appear particularly concerned with, nor worried about, the finer nuances of an academic debate between two different schools of economic thought. It is all about not underperforming the market or a benchmark, so don’t fight the Fed. Unfortunately, a strategy of following the Fed’s urging to take on greater risk will likely end in heartbreak. Should the stock market continue its upward march, both our clients and FPA’s portfolio managers will be tested. This is a time for discipline. Given that economic growth is languid at best and is likely slowing, the divergence between the stock market and economic reality cannot be sustained. One or the other has to adjust.

The Fed’s actions today are but another attempt to reshape the yield curve. Some would say manipulate. The end goal is to improve housing demand via lower interest rates and spur capital spending and risk taking. The shape of the yield curve will be an important indicator of things to come. If the Fed is successful in bending the curve downwards with lower long-term rates, this will place extraordinary pressures on fixed income investors and financial organizations. It will enhance the “risk trade” and I believe it will result in creating financial cancers because capital is or will likely be deployed in an unbalanced risk fashion, resulting in a duration or credit risk mismatch. Call it a bubble of another sort that will result in unintended consequences. Should the yield curve steepen, with ten-year bond yields moving above 2% while short-term rates are anchored near zero, it would imply that a longer term inflation fear is re-entering the market. Inflation fears are not just driven by improved economic expectations. The Fed believes it can manage this risk. It also believes it can manage the unwinding of its massive QE portfolio without market disruption. This is opinion and not fact based. Intelligent people can disagree about this view.

Future outcomes will also be materially affected by whether Chairman Bernanke remains in office next year, the composition of the new congress and who will be president. I believe that Chairman Bernanke should be replaced with a new far less monetary policy intrusive chairman. The composition of the congress and who the next president is will likely shape how or if a fiscal Grand Bargain can be achieved. Chairman Bernanke has consistently argued that any expenditure cuts should do no harm to the nascent recovery. As is typical in Washington, postpone the tough decisions.

2013 is a critical moment in time. If a material and timely fiscal restructuring does not take place by next September, I fear and believe that it will not occur before 2017. Unfortunately, if this were to occur, my 2009 warning of a crisis of equal or greater magnitude than the Great Recession by 2017 would be a more likely outcome. Dave Walker, CEO of the Comeback America Initiative,, who I have referenced several times before, also believes 2013 is a critical year. In light of that, he began the $10 Million A Minute Tour that will cover a dozen states by bus. It is a fact-based, non-ideological tour that focuses on the tough choices we face and sensible, non-partisan solutions that can achieve bipartisan support and restore fiscal sanity. I am both a moral and financial supporter of this tour.

My worst fear is that fiscal gridlock continues, coupled with the policies of this activist Fed Chairman. Today’s Fed actions add to my anxieties. “ALL IN” may be a good strategy for poker but not for this economy.

(1) “Over-Optimistic Fed May Backtrack Again on Forecasts,” Jonathan Spicer and Ann Saphir, Reuters, September 11, 2012.
(2) Minutes of the Federal Open Market Committee, November 3-4, 2009.
(3) “Debt Overhangs: Past and Present,” Carmen M. Reinhart, Vincent R. Reinhart and Kenneth S. Rogoff, April 15, 2012.
(4) “Monetary Policy since the Onset of the Crisis,” Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City Economic Symposium, Jackson Hole, WY, August 31, 2012.


PD1: I am also critical about Ben Bernanke’s actions, as I have written in my previous post.

PD2: Personally, I’m net short in US$. I’m short in long dated treasury bonds (20 years+). I carry trade the dollar, by that I mean that I buy USA stocks with dollars lent at low rates and collateralized by other currencies. I keep a lot of cash and look to increase my holdings out of the USA or in the USA with companies that have most of its earnings from outside and if possible that are inflation resilient (like low inventories, high turn over, etc..).

If rates are kept low mal-investments could follow forming several bubbles along with the mother bubble which is a debt bubble, in hands of the government.

If interest rates go up, due to inflation and government trust lost, I have my serious doubts that it could be controlled. Long dated treasuries and mortgage based securities are the FED’s favorite holdings. They are highly sensible to interest rates and will plummet if they go up, dragging down the FED’s balance sheet. The dollar will be further devalued. High inflation could persist. Foreigners would lose trust in the USA, specially Chinese investors whose lendings would be impaired. From what I know there is no easy or fast way to control inflation in such circumstances. In that case some kind of stocks would be recommended and if you manage (easier said than done) to buy bonds when rates are at its maximum you can make a profit.

Neither of the previous scenarios look good for the common citizens and both would be caused by the government interference with the market. It could also be that the situation stays in between as of now but I doubt that such a balancing act would be easy, sustainable or even possible. The government should stop interfering with the market. It’s role should be to protect private property. Instead of that they do exactly the opposite, making everyone poorer by legalizing theft via money printing and excessive taxes. Their incentive is comprehensible, they also want to protect their “jobs” by supporting too many unnecessary public employees and politicians. The ones who support them, mostly unaware, are common citizens.

PD3: I think that the current bubble is in the government. Around 1999 the internet bubble was a private bubble in technology. Then the bubble passed to the housing sector, around 2007-2008. That was a bubble in private hands but also with a big public component with Fanny and Freddie. Now basically the government took the whole bubble after bailing out several companies and going into their QE printing spree. Government debt expansion and the S&P growth is highly correlated, Robert Rodriguez did a nice graph showing it. Given that the bubble is in public hands and that they can keep printing as much as they like what worries me is having US cash. At least Germans are doing more to keep a hold on the European printing machine and the overall EU debt seems in better shape than the american one. Then again Europeans have their issues and a Mediterranean crash is also in the cards. It should also be taken into account in order to position your investments.

The danger, if the debt bubble bursts, could be in the dollar currency, bringing devaluation and inflation. That could happen with a stable stock market since companies balance sheets don’t look bad and they can keep selling if their products are good and specially if the dollar is cheaper. Governments can keep on printing, which is just a hidden tax. If the bubble bursts it could be in the shape of higher inflation, interest rates, impaired trust in the american capitalist system, and currency devaluation. The ones who would suffer the consequences would be common Americans, specially cash savers and treasury bond holders.


About jrv

I was born in Spain and lived in Belgium, Chile, France, USA, Argentina among other places. Currently I am trying to settle down in a wild place. I am "retired", even though now I dedicate more hours "working" for my investments than I ever worked in the real labor market where I used to work in IT and Banking. I am a family man, I have a lovely wife, several sons and one step daughter. I have humble tastes, I like to stay home and read about companies and investments. I started investing at 25 before the internet bubble exploded. I did not know much about investing and liked technical analysis so my results were pretty bad. Fortunately I did not have much to lose. Some years later in 2006 bored of doing only real state investments and with quite a lot of money saved I opened an account in a cheap and excellent online broker and started again. This time I did not want to commit the same mistake, so I decided to follow a model. I heard that Warren Buffett was the best at making money via stocks so I started by reading a lot about him, all of his shareholders letters and several of the books that he recommended. I learned a lot, started applying his investing principles and reading a lot of 10K's. Digested news from lots of different sources. Basically I started buying very good and cheap companies and holding them for ever if possible and if nothing changed fundamentally. When the housing crisis started I was more than 75% cash. At that time I identified good companies at incredibly cheap prices so I invested most of my savings in stocks. In less than I year I doubled. By the second semester of 2009 I turned my software company into an investment vehicle and dedicated myself full time to it. My wife and I decided to change our lifestyle and moved from Belgium to the beach in a wild country. The goal was to keep fixed costs low in order to be able to live with a minimum 6-8% yearly return but specially to move away from the inhuman life of civilization and to have finally some peace and sunny weather to concentrate better on investing. Now I can think and study about companies 60 hours a week and I am doing great. I can finally do what I want full time and can proudly say that I have never been so happy, specially also with my just born 4th son, my other great kids and my sweet wife who supports me fully while I study most of the day and patiently wait for the opportunity to make a swing ! You can learn a bit more about my portfolio by viewing it at or you may learn more about me and my family by following the link "Author's site" from the menu above.
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6 Responses to ALL IN! – By Robert Rodriguez

  1. Kainvest says:

    Good piece. What are the implications for investing in the short and long term?

  2. jrv says:

    Hi Kainvest,

    See PD2 at the end of the post, I just added it, inspired by your question.

  3. jrv says:

    I’m adding this to keep a log of my thoughts, most of it basically comes from something I wrote in a mail:

    I’m disappointed with Buffett’s investment in BYD, not when he originally did it but from the fact that he stills holds into it. I had it for some years and sold after I saw their debt evolution and one after another broken promess and missed sales. Their battery business didn’t take off as I expected. It is subsidized by the government and at its mercy, when the government stopped subsidizing their car sales the stock crashed. I cannot understand what Buffett sees there anymore. Every time he is asked about it he redirects the question to Munger. But I have my doubts that Munger is personally well informed about it when I see his answers. The good thing is that its a small investment for them and is still quite profitable. Even though they were making 2 billions profit on it at a certain point instead of a couple of hundred millions now. But still… given BYD’s financials, I do not like to see Berkshire holding it now.

    Changing subject: See PD3 at the end of the post.


  4. Kainvest says:


    What do you think of buying American house and land as a hedge to the inflation in the future?

  5. jrv says:

    If I lived in the USA and could get a loan at current interest rates I would by a house, and a nice one, either to rent or for myself, and search good one for a relatively cheap price. I do not think there has been a better time to buy a house.

    I would do it only under those conditions (with a loan and a cheap nice house). But I would not use my cash to buy it because I have better alternatives for it.


  6. Florian Warninghoff says:

    Hi jrv,

    I finally found some time to catch up on your blog :-)

    Very informative article and sound decision-making of you and Mr. Rodriguez :-) I will definitely add him to my watch-list.

    Thank you and all the best from Germany,

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